It's just not as conservative as it was and we have yet to see, of course, what his party room will actually allow him to do. The left wing is something else entirely. Now Malcolm Turnbull brings things back a little bit more towards the mainstream of Australia but I wouldn't remotely call that left wing. It was a very ultra conservative view, a view of the right. That gap that was showing up week after week after month after month in the polls, that steady gap was really the Australian nation saying 'We don't see ourselves like you do' and he saw himself for his clique within the Liberal Party room, the Liberal Party party room, was an ultra-conservative view of this country, with dangers everywhere and threats everywhere and the need for vigorous action and fighting and that kind of combative view of this country ultimately didn't wash.

No, no, no! I mean, one of the reasons Tony Abbott failed is that his presentation of the notion of what Australia is just doesn't square with Australians.

TONY JONES: David Marr, I'm not sure that the questioner was especially optimistic about this but what's your view? I mean, is he right, the country has now moved to the left?ДAVID MARR: A little bit. Now the challenge is for Malcolm Turnbull to take that goodwill and institute change: tax reform, improve industrial relations, make Australia more productive and make Australia a better country. He is optimistic about Australia, as I am. Look, it's undoubted that Malcolm Turnbull has generated goodwill, has generated enthusiasm. Malcolm Turnbull has said that many of the economic settings that Tony Abbott put in place are going to be followed. Malcolm Turnbull is going to be judged by results. JOHN ROSKAM: Oh, look, I'm not sure about that. TONY JONES: John Roskam, I'll start with you. As a conservative voter, how can I have my voice heard before it is too late and the damage is irreparable? After Prime Minister Turnbull's treachery in the night and the immediate boost it gave to the polls, it is clear the country is beginning to lean heavily to the left. We'll bring the other panellists in after that. I think that the proper process would have been Tony stepping down and then Malcolm has always been the obvious heir apparent and that would have been the preferable path for me and so there is a straight answer. I don't think Tony would have taken us over a cliff. If it became - and it was becoming quite clear that the polls were saying that it was unlikely he would be able to win. I think that what would have been better, to be honest, is if Tony had stepped down. I don't believe it is right to change leaders through a process of intrigue. TONY JONES: Do you believe it was the right thing?Д«ARNABY JOYCE: Well, I've said that I don't believe it is right. My job is now to work with Malcolm Turnbull and try and make sure that we've got the best government we can possibly deserve. One is you people and the other one is within the Government itself. There are two checks and balances on power. You can give a straightforward answer to that.Д«ARNABY JOYCE: He was allowed to do it and that's part of the process. Did Malcolm Turnbull do the right thing? It's a very simple one. TONY JONES: So, can I ask get you to ask the question or answer the question, I should say.Д«ARNABY JOYCE: I can ask lots of questions. We have had Abbott, now we've got Turnbull. Both - within the Cabinet, I have always believed there were two giants in the room. I have to say.Д«ARNABY JOYCE: Now, I want to make sure that we just get back to business and start working as hard as we possibly can. I know that Catherine has lived through two of them and now I've lived through one.Д¬ATHERINE KING: We also know what happens next. They bring out the worst because it becomes a world of intrigue. I think that - you know, to be honest, these sort of occurrences don't bring out the best of characters. Look, to be honest I don't like the process of changing leaders in the by reason of the intrigue of a Parliament or members of Parliament, but it's part of the process and now we work with the process. Did Malcolm Turnbull do the right thing by ousting Tony Abbott?Д«ARNABY JOYCE: Well, that's an easy one to start with. VERONICA HOPLEY: My question is for Barnaby Joyce. Here to answer your questions tonight: journalist and commentator David Marr, whose latest essay Faction Man, tracks Bill Shorten's path to power the executive director of the Institute of Public Affairs, John Roskam the Shadow Minister for Health Catherine King Deputy Nationals leader and Minister for Agriculture Barnaby Joyce and the director of the Museum of Contemporary Art, Elizabeth Ann McGregor. TONY JONES: Good evening and welcome to Q&A.

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